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		<title>By: I am a Christian Too &#187; Baylor: Is Your God Authoritarian or Benevolent?</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-34136</link>
		<dc:creator>I am a Christian Too &#187; Baylor: Is Your God Authoritarian or Benevolent?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 05:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For those who have read my past posts on John Dean&#8217;s book Conservatives Without Conscience, you&#8217;ll understand why the word Authoritarian in the description of the first conception of God jumped out at me. The explanatory power of the psychological model Dean discusses seems to have gotten some validation from a Baptist university. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For those who have read my past posts on John Dean&#8217;s book Conservatives Without Conscience, you&#8217;ll understand why the word Authoritarian in the description of the first conception of God jumped out at me. The explanatory power of the psychological model Dean discusses seems to have gotten some validation from a Baptist university. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Eichenlaub</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28554</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Eichenlaub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re looking for the party with the values espoused in the book, join the Libertarian Party. 

http://www.lp.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re looking for the party with the values espoused in the book, join the Libertarian Party. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lp.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.lp.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28420</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the common thread with conservatives w/out conscience is that they tend to 
baptize themselves in &quot;Group-Think&quot; in following a leader. This frees them from individual moral 
responsibility. When this happens - as history has shown - it is not so very far away to 
committing atrocities in the name of freedom, security, national pride, manifest destiny, and 
even in the name of Jesus.

Conservatives w/out conscience will create a world where “Islamo-fascism” thrives, and then 
condemn Progressives for “clamoring to appease them,” without offering a single example proving 
their point, and not acknowledging and not accepting responsibility that the world is a much more 
dangerous place since the conservatives w/out conscience have been in control of our government. 

Even using the term “Islamo-fascism” is not without a specific intent to be able to act without 
conscience. As Joseph Sobran, syndicated columnist said: &quot;Islamofascism is nothing but an empty 
propaganda term. And wartime propaganda is usually, if not always, crafted to produce hysteria, 
the destruction of any sense of proportion. Such words, undefined and unmeasured, are used by 
people more interested in making us lose our heads than in keeping their own.&quot; 

Dean is correct, this is not the conservative party of Goldwater, nor is it the conservative party 
of: 
      •	Eisenhower: emphasizing a balanced budget and control of the military industrial complex,
      •	Nixon: ending American fighting in the un-winnable war in Viet Nam and improving relations 
        with the U.S.S.R.,  and China., and a installing a broad environmental program, 
      •	Reagan:  negotiated bilateral arms reductions with the Soviets,
      • George H. W. Bush: had the foresight to know when choosing not to invade Iraq: “&quot;Whose 
        life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond 
        the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we&#039;re going to show our 
        macho? We&#039;re going into Baghdad. We&#039;re going to be an occupying power — America in an 
        Arab land — with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous.&quot;[18]
      • William Buckley: - in an interview on CBS “&quot;I think Mr. Bush faces a singular problem best 
        defined, I think, as the absence of effective conservative ideology — with the result that 
        he ended up being very extravagant in domestic spending, extremely tolerant of excesses 
        by Congress,&quot; Buckley says. &quot;And in respect of foreign policy, incapable of bringing 
        together such forces as apparently were necessary to conclude the Iraq challenge.&quot; Asked 
        what President Bush&#039;s foreign policy legacy will be to his successor, Buckley says &quot;There 
        will be no legacy for Mr. Bush.”

The conservative ship has steered off course. The occasional voice in the wilderness has tried to 
bring it back, but any attempt at course correction is often dismissed with attacks on the 
messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the common thread with conservatives w/out conscience is that they tend to<br />
baptize themselves in &#8220;Group-Think&#8221; in following a leader. This frees them from individual moral<br />
responsibility. When this happens &#8211; as history has shown &#8211; it is not so very far away to<br />
committing atrocities in the name of freedom, security, national pride, manifest destiny, and<br />
even in the name of Jesus.</p>
<p>Conservatives w/out conscience will create a world where “Islamo-fascism” thrives, and then<br />
condemn Progressives for “clamoring to appease them,” without offering a single example proving<br />
their point, and not acknowledging and not accepting responsibility that the world is a much more<br />
dangerous place since the conservatives w/out conscience have been in control of our government. </p>
<p>Even using the term “Islamo-fascism” is not without a specific intent to be able to act without<br />
conscience. As Joseph Sobran, syndicated columnist said: &#8220;Islamofascism is nothing but an empty<br />
propaganda term. And wartime propaganda is usually, if not always, crafted to produce hysteria,<br />
the destruction of any sense of proportion. Such words, undefined and unmeasured, are used by<br />
people more interested in making us lose our heads than in keeping their own.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dean is correct, this is not the conservative party of Goldwater, nor is it the conservative party<br />
of:<br />
      •	Eisenhower: emphasizing a balanced budget and control of the military industrial complex,<br />
      •	Nixon: ending American fighting in the un-winnable war in Viet Nam and improving relations<br />
        with the U.S.S.R.,  and China., and a installing a broad environmental program,<br />
      •	Reagan:  negotiated bilateral arms reductions with the Soviets,<br />
      • George H. W. Bush: had the foresight to know when choosing not to invade Iraq: “&#8221;Whose<br />
        life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond<br />
        the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we&#8217;re going to show our<br />
        macho? We&#8217;re going into Baghdad. We&#8217;re going to be an occupying power — America in an<br />
        Arab land — with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous.&#8221;[18]<br />
      • William Buckley: &#8211; in an interview on CBS “&#8221;I think Mr. Bush faces a singular problem best<br />
        defined, I think, as the absence of effective conservative ideology — with the result that<br />
        he ended up being very extravagant in domestic spending, extremely tolerant of excesses<br />
        by Congress,&#8221; Buckley says. &#8220;And in respect of foreign policy, incapable of bringing<br />
        together such forces as apparently were necessary to conclude the Iraq challenge.&#8221; Asked<br />
        what President Bush&#8217;s foreign policy legacy will be to his successor, Buckley says &#8220;There<br />
        will be no legacy for Mr. Bush.”</p>
<p>The conservative ship has steered off course. The occasional voice in the wilderness has tried to<br />
bring it back, but any attempt at course correction is often dismissed with attacks on the<br />
messenger.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28416</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Jacke, do your homework!  Publisher&#039;s Weekly?  That&#039;s the best you can do?  I&#039;m sure there are far more insightful and scathing reviews at NRO or Weekly Standard or American Spectator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Jacke, do your homework!  Publisher&#8217;s Weekly?  That&#8217;s the best you can do?  I&#8217;m sure there are far more insightful and scathing reviews at NRO or Weekly Standard or American Spectator.</p>
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		<title>By: I am a Christian Too &#187; Torture and the Authoritarian Personality</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28386</link>
		<dc:creator>I am a Christian Too &#187; Torture and the Authoritarian Personality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So John Dean may seem to be on thin ice in Conservatives Without Conscience when he refers to research prompted by Nazi Germany to explain the current authoritarian strain in the Republican party. But let&#8217;s dig a little deeper. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So John Dean may seem to be on thin ice in Conservatives Without Conscience when he refers to research prompted by Nazi Germany to explain the current authoritarian strain in the Republican party. But let&#8217;s dig a little deeper. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28331</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PT -

Yeah, I keep hearing about Fiasco...guess I have to add it to my list, although I&#039;m in the middle of Michelle Goldberg&#039;s Kingdom Coming right now, which is also good.  So many books, so little time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PT -</p>
<p>Yeah, I keep hearing about Fiasco&#8230;guess I have to add it to my list, although I&#8217;m in the middle of Michelle Goldberg&#8217;s Kingdom Coming right now, which is also good.  So many books, so little time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Public Theologian</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28271</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Theologian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 15:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob--

I found this book to be absolutely riveting.  He has done the world an enormous favor by explaining, in a popular, easily digestable manner, a large of amount to academic research into the political behavior of conservatives about which the geberal public would have likely oteherwise remained unaware.

Now the next book you need to review is Fiasco;)
Regards,

PT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob&#8211;</p>
<p>I found this book to be absolutely riveting.  He has done the world an enormous favor by explaining, in a popular, easily digestable manner, a large of amount to academic research into the political behavior of conservatives about which the geberal public would have likely oteherwise remained unaware.</p>
<p>Now the next book you need to review is Fiasco;)<br />
Regards,</p>
<p>PT</p>
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		<title>By: Jacke</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28265</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 14:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob writes:

&quot;Jacke, if you want to argue against Dean’s book, then you should read it first, or at least acquaint yourself with his arguments.&quot;

Fair enough.  Since I haven&#039;t read the book and have no intention of adding to the wealth of John Dean, runs against my &quot;conservative principles,&quot; don&#039;t you know? Here&#039;s a review from someone who has:

http://www.powells.com/biblio/18-0670037745-0

Review:
&quot;In his seventh book, Dean, the former Nixon legal counsel whom the FBI has called the &#039;master manipulator&#039; of the Watergate coverup, weighs in with a rebuke to Christian fundamentalists and other right-wing hard-liners. A self-described Goldwater conservative (indeed, Goldwater had planned to collaborate on this book before his death), he rails against the influence of social conservatives and neoconservatives within his party. Suffused with bitterness stemming from the controversies in which he has been embroiled, Dean&#039;s book paints a thin social science veneer over a litany of mostly ad hominem complaints. Purporting to show that social conservatives and neoconservatives are, on the whole, demonstrably authoritarian, bigoted, irrational and amoral, Conservatives Without Conscience offers helpful hints such as &#039;Conservatives without conscience do not have horns and tails,&#039; and evinces a telling fascination with politicians&#039; shady book deals. Though there is clearly much to condemn in the policies and tactics Dean deplores, assailing everyone from French political theorist Joseph de Maistre to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to the chairman of Yale University&#039;s conservative association as &#039;Double High&#039; social- dominance-oriented authoritarians undermines his journalistic credibility. Dean&#039;s lurid accusations may be entertaining, but they add little to the reasoned debate that Washington so sorely lacks today. (July 11)&quot; Publishers Weekly (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jacke, if you want to argue against Dean’s book, then you should read it first, or at least acquaint yourself with his arguments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fair enough.  Since I haven&#8217;t read the book and have no intention of adding to the wealth of John Dean, runs against my &#8220;conservative principles,&#8221; don&#8217;t you know? Here&#8217;s a review from someone who has:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.powells.com/biblio/18-0670037745-0" rel="nofollow">http://www.powells.com/biblio/18-0670037745-0</a></p>
<p>Review:<br />
&#8220;In his seventh book, Dean, the former Nixon legal counsel whom the FBI has called the &#8216;master manipulator&#8217; of the Watergate coverup, weighs in with a rebuke to Christian fundamentalists and other right-wing hard-liners. A self-described Goldwater conservative (indeed, Goldwater had planned to collaborate on this book before his death), he rails against the influence of social conservatives and neoconservatives within his party. Suffused with bitterness stemming from the controversies in which he has been embroiled, Dean&#8217;s book paints a thin social science veneer over a litany of mostly ad hominem complaints. Purporting to show that social conservatives and neoconservatives are, on the whole, demonstrably authoritarian, bigoted, irrational and amoral, Conservatives Without Conscience offers helpful hints such as &#8216;Conservatives without conscience do not have horns and tails,&#8217; and evinces a telling fascination with politicians&#8217; shady book deals. Though there is clearly much to condemn in the policies and tactics Dean deplores, assailing everyone from French political theorist Joseph de Maistre to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to the chairman of Yale University&#8217;s conservative association as &#8216;Double High&#8217; social- dominance-oriented authoritarians undermines his journalistic credibility. Dean&#8217;s lurid accusations may be entertaining, but they add little to the reasoned debate that Washington so sorely lacks today. (July 11)&#8221; Publishers Weekly (Copyright Reed Business Information, Inc.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28227</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Aug 2006 04:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t set out to connect the two, but the research data ended up doing so.  I&#039;m just recounting what he says in his book.

Jacke, if you want to argue against Dean&#039;s book, then you should read it first, or at least acquaint yourself with his arguments.  Take a look: http://www.google.com/search?q=dean+%22conservatives+without+conscience%22&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

If you won&#039;t make the effort to understand his arguments, then we&#039;re just wasting our time here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t set out to connect the two, but the research data ended up doing so.  I&#8217;m just recounting what he says in his book.</p>
<p>Jacke, if you want to argue against Dean&#8217;s book, then you should read it first, or at least acquaint yourself with his arguments.  Take a look: <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=dean+%22conservatives+without+conscience%22&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=dean+%22conservatives+without+conscience%22&amp;start=0&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official</a></p>
<p>If you won&#8217;t make the effort to understand his arguments, then we&#8217;re just wasting our time here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacke</title>
		<link>http://iamachristiantoo.org/?p=292&#038;cpage=1#comment-28191</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then you accomplished what Dean did not when you wrote:

&quot;As you might expect, conservative Christians tend to score highly on this scale.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then you accomplished what Dean did not when you wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;As you might expect, conservative Christians tend to score highly on this scale.&#8221;</p>
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